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off he goes i gotta say one of the

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fascinating things about this is and

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john mack wrestled with this as danny

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some people have had these insights or

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contacts like you marshall

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different people why do some people have

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because in the end the only way we're

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or this phenomenon examined

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something so we're more inclined to

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but just an anecdotal account with all

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new york times because no one knows what

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and danny jumps in and says

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let's go to let's go to adam you were

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you were right ralph in referring this

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to adam adam what's your sense about

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this and can you share

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surprisingly enough a lot of people are

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the stanford research institute and hal

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i may totally be off on this and this is

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be connected to the remote viewing

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program and i may just not know that but

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intuitive who was in my kit green

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human brain right

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and adam jumps right in he says no

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no

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in fact

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i think that we're going to be dealing

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with these very questions when we

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actually get serious about ai

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and we stop just using the term as a way

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to get

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venture capital funding but if we are if

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we are to progress down this road of the

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question of what is consciousness and

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how we can create it and we're going to

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have to and we're going we're going to

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have to look at the fundamental nature

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of consciousness and probably also the

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psy research as well

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and it's going to be a lot more

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difficult than having a really advanced

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computer with special machine learning

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so danny jumps back in

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so the point is that you know a lot of

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people don't know this but i was

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actually shown copies of ostensibly

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classified information about the studies

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that were being done with remote viewing

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at the stanford research institute with

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pat

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price as it turns out ingo swann who was

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one of the major adepts that was working

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with them there and by the way ingleswan

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was an amazing

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new york-based

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was there in the very beginning with hal

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put off

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um

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ingo was one of the uh

325
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he wasn't a volunteer he got paid you

326
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know he did experiments with hal and

327
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that's how they came up with the remote

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viewing protocol with russell targe and

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some other folks

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but danny says that ingo swan was also a

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high level clear in the church of

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scientology

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that is not true that was that was pat

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price um and he says you know ingo was

335
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providing deep inside classified

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documentation to the church of

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scientology

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that was not that was not ingo that was

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pat price richard dolan jumps in and

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says i think that was pat price

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and and sheen was like nope nope it was

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ingleswan

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uh but it was pat price and

344
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danny says he saw the documents about

345
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this and the capabilities that pat price

346
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displayed or something that almost no

347
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one could conceive of his capabilities

348
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of learning how to do this and then

349
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being able to do this

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you know he could and i'm gonna i'm

351
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gonna explain in my own words because

352
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basically what was amazing about pat

353
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price his accuracy and details but

354
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one of the things he was able to do is

355
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actually read if if there was a document

356
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in the area where he was remote viewing

357
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he could read

358
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the title of the document and that is

359
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something i don't know anybody else that

360
00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:45,760
can do that if there are people i have

361
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not heard of it

362
00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:49,360
and that's important because

363
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one of the targets early on they were

364
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giving

365
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kit green got a target for them to work

366
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and

367
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some guy gave him kick green the target

368
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kit green did not know what the target

369
00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:01,680
was it turned out it was a cabin

370
00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:04,320
really boring target but ingoswan and

371
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pat price started describing like this

372
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facility behind

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razor wire fences

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and

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pat price quote unquote entered

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psychically into this one building and

377
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he began to read

378
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the names on these folders and it turned

379
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:28,079
out the names were

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the names of secret uh special access

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programs

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allegedly that's what pat price was

383
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doing he was reading the names of

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special access programs

385
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which would be if that's true

386
00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:40,720
what an amazing thing and what an

387
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amazing

388
00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:43,440
horrible thing for a government if you

389
00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,959
have a special access program and you

390
00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:46,639
have a code word meanwhile here's this

391
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:48,959
guy who can read it using his psychic

392
00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:50,880
abilities so that caused a lot of

393
00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:53,440
problems and lou jumped in and he said

394
00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:55,360
you know pat price got in trouble for

395
00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:57,600
that danny you know that and dolan's

396
00:15:01,750 --> 00:14:59,600
like that's right that's right and and

397
00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:01,760
danny's like yeah i know

398
00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:04,000
and uh

399
00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:06,000
basically

400
00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,680
they investigated they tried to figure

401
00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:09,440
out how are you guys finding out

402
00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:11,760
information about special access program

403
00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:13,680
code words and you know and there was an

404
00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:16,160
investigation but you know it was

405
00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:18,079
nobody had leaked classified information

406
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:18,880
it was

407
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,839
with that information

408
00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:23,600
using his abilities

409
00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:25,279
his sixth sense

410
00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:28,160
so then danny jumps and he says

411
00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:30,240
you know i'm talking about capacities of

412
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:33,120
our human species

413
00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:35,360
to be to be able to do these kinds of

414
00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:37,839
things and and this was danny danny was

415
00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:39,360
talking before so he didn't just jump in

416
00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,959
sorry about that because i'm talking

417
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,399
about the capacities of our human

418
00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:44,320
species to be able to do these kinds of

419
00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,240
things because

420
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:47,759
what it is that marshall is talking

421
00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:49,759
about here is met with the same kind of

422
00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:52,399
derision that the ufo phenomenon was met

423
00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,720
with 50 years ago and so

424
00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:56,800
if in fact it's true that certain human

425
00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:58,639
beings are capable of discerning

426
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,959
accurate information which

427
00:16:04,949 --> 00:16:02,880
and the unique thing about remote

428
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,959
viewing was that it was able to be

429
00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:06,959
confirmed and basically yeah they were

430
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:08,720
able to get feedback on that particular

431
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:10,800
session it was an

432
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:13,199
nsa facility and there are other targets

433
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:15,279
you can get feedback on say you know you

434
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:16,959
do a remote viewing

435
00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:19,360
of a really famous place like the eiffel

436
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:22,320
tower and if they draw a large structure

437
00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:24,480
thin structure and sometimes they'll say

438
00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,000
paris you know you can get feedback

439
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:31,040
targets like like marshall summers

440
00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:32,959
is doing right now we do not have

441
00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:35,759
feedback we don't know if it's true what

442
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:37,440
he says about who's visiting us and

443
00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,389
so

444
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,990
danny continues he goes yeah they knew

445
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,279
where the sites were they knew what the

446
00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:51,360
data was they were you know

447
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,880
they knew what was in the building that

448
00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:54,720
pat price was able to get into and so

449
00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:56,240
what i'm saying is

450
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,720
if we as a human family are going to try

451
00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:00,800
to come to grips with this extraordinary

452
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:03,600
phenomenon that's happening here

453
00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,520
i think that we need to get access and

454
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:07,439
he's talking about ufo phenomenon i

455
00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,439
think we need to get access to all of

456
00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,520
the resources that we have and that we

457
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,919
cannot be confined by the limitations of

458
00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:15,600
what's going you know what's getting

459
00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:17,439
ready to go into the new york times or

460
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,039
what the defense department is willing

461
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,600
to acknowledge and yeah i agree totally

462
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:23,360
with danny you can't rely on that stuff

463
00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:25,520
that would limit limit us too much

464
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:28,240
and danny says and now what with lou

465
00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:29,840
lou and that you've come outside of that

466
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:32,240
particular community that has all of

467
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,520
those constraints

468
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:35,039
you know now we're able to assemble a

469
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:36,400
team of people

470
00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:37,280
uh

471
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:38,960
with the type of skills that we have

472
00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:40,160
here and he's talking about the people

473
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:41,600
on the panel

474
00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:42,880
to try to figure out what the hell is

475
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:44,640
going on

476
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:59,029
and i will take a drink break

477
00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,750
richard dolan pops in says

478
00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:04,000
so

479
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,000
fascinating conversation

480
00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:08,480
i loved hearing adam

481
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:10,799
i really enjoyed hearing marshall as

482
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,480
well and marshall

483
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:14,080
i just want you to know for many years

484
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:16,080
i've had i have your first two books and

485
00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:18,240
i stayed away from them i shied away

486
00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:20,320
because i did not know how to make sense

487
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,320
of the source of your information it was

488
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,240
that simple but i decided that i really

489
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:26,080
liked i really liked what you were

490
00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:27,600
saying and i agreed with your basic

491
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,360
message

492
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:31,520
i have a fundamental sympathy to that

493
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:33,120
and so i thought i'm going to just look

494
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,720
at your work on the basis of what you

495
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:37,039
were saying and on that basis i think i

496
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:39,200
really like what's in there

497
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,440
and i agree with richard dolan it's it's

498
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:43,039
different than most

499
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,000
most channel material

500
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:47,919
marshall summer's material seems

501
00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:49,840
different now once i dig deeper maybe

502
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:51,200
i'll have a different opinion but right

503
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:52,080
now

504
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:53,919
i like it

505
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,520
and once again whether or not it's

506
00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:58,080
accurate i don't know

507
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,080
and then dolan says now the other thing

508
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,559
is like adam i also studied remote

509
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:04,960
viewing i'm very engaged in that

510
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,880
uh and there is no question in my mind

511
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,559
that there's a reality to that so the

512
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,120
problem that i've had is as a historian

513
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:13,760
is it's similar to what ralph has and

514
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,640
what lou has as well like when you have

515
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,799
to evaluate information how do you

516
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,120
decide what to include and that's the

517
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,360
problem we don't all have to work at the

518
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:25,280
same level of what constitutes valid

519
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,559
evidence and that's the beauty of it

520
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:28,160
because when we're dealing with this

521
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,640
phenomenon it's quite evident to all of

522
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:32,000
us that we're dealing with something

523
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:34,160
that is beyond our horizon to some

524
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,679
extent

525
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:37,360
we have certain tremendous abilities of

526
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,840
cognition and thinking things out and we

527
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,600
understand reality through space and

528
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,960
through time but

529
00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,799
there's this phenomenon that seems to go

530
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,640
beyond what we're able to understand at

531
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,960
times and so we struggle with that we

532
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,480
may never get to the point where we

533
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,240
truly understand this at the level we

534
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,320
would want to i think that's probably

535
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:56,320
going to be the case it doesn't mean we

536
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,480
can't make progress but it's difficult

537
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,720
and just real quick you know i did study

538
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:05,280
remote viewing back in 97 and then

539
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,960
that was with lynn buchanan one of the

540
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:09,120
earlier members of the remote viewing

541
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,200
program that was funded by the army at

542
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,480
that time

543
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,320
i also studied with prudence prudence

544
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,840
calabrese twice

545
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:18,000
i took her basic class lynn's basic

546
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,760
class and i was able to get information

547
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:21,600
that in my opinion there was no other

548
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,200
way i could have gotten it except

549
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:25,200
through you know some sort of sixth

550
00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:26,480
sense

551
00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:29,200
i did not have any spectacular sessions

552
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,400
um

553
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,720
but lynn was a great teacher and i was

554
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,039
able to pull up data that was just very

555
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,919
unique that you know

556
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:39,520
people will say you're you were deluding

557
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,720
yourself you didn't get accurate

558
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,080
information i don't think so i was

559
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,159
pretty tough on myself i mean i was able

560
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,240
to get some information that

561
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:49,200
it just matched the target so specific

562
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:50,240
um

563
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,200
and

564
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,640
i didn't stay with it i wish i would

565
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,559
have stayed with it but the one great

566
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:56,400
thing about lin's class which i don't

567
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:57,760
think he teaches anymore he's dealing

568
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,039
with health health issues but you could

569
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:01,039
take it as many times as you wanted you

570
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,559
pay for it and the class was pricey it

571
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,559
was three days it was a thousand dollars

572
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,000
but you could take it for a lifetime you

573
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:07,760
can go back and take that class again as

574
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,000
many times as you wanted to i only took

575
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:12,799
it once and that was in san francisco uh

576
00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,000
but richard goes on he says

577
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,919
uh therefore i think an important part

578
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:19,919
of evidence at least at least important

579
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,640
to me is context when you have

580
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,559
when you have like i agree anecdotal

581
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:26,960
testimony i cannot prove if a particular

582
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,440
individual has seen either a ufo that

583
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,280
they claim to have seen or gotten a

584
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,200
message that they claim to have gotten

585
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,200
you know how could we possibly know that

586
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,360
but i do think that there's a level of

587
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,120
proof that is rock solid that would even

588
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,440
hold up in a court of science

589
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,200
then there's a level of proof that's

590
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,520
rock solid that would hold up in most

591
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:47,919
courts of law and then there's something

592
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:51,039
that looks like it's probably true to a

593
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,559
reasonable mind

594
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,159
and then danny jumps in and says yeah

595
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,760
that's the sheep example i was giving

596
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,480
you early earlier with ollie oliver

597
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,280
wendell holmes and danny uh richard says

598
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:03,360
we have an intelligent person with a

599
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,720
reasonable mind

600
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:06,640
looking at the sum total of types of

601
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,799
information that's coming to them i

602
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,080
think

603
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,400
can also make a conclusion

604
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,559
in my view that's also valid so

605
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,760
basically he's saying you know you look

606
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,039
at the information

607
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,799
use your judgment you don't have the

608
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,200
proof but you can make a conclusion

609
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,720
obviously it's not proof it's your

610
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,880
personal conclusion but he says in my

611
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,880
view that's also valid and when i do my

612
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:28,799
writing and my discussion of this i will

613
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,520
often go to that level i i mean i think

614
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:33,919
you know cheech and chong if it looks

615
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,200
like it tastes like it smells like it it

616
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,960
it's probably it

617
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,720
and i think it's often the same with a

618
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:42,400
lot of other types of evidence and

619
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,799
things that we encounter in our world

620
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,799
the easy thing to do with ufo evidence

621
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,039
is to ignore it that's what most people

622
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,039
do when you actually engage in it and

623
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,280
you encounter it you find

624
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,120
i can't prove that person i can't prove

625
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,120
that one i can't prove that one i can't

626
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,200
prove that one but they're all saying

627
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,200
almost the exact same thing so i'm gonna

628
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,440
work with that and that's my attitude

629
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:04,960
and it doesn't mean that everything is a

630
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,200
sure shot but i think that's valid and

631
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:09,520
for that reason i was very very glad to

632
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:11,679
hear marshall and very glad to hear adam

633
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,679
talk about how this type of information

634
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,120
can be valid

635
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,720
doesn't prove marshall's communication

636
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,760
is valid

637
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,679
but it's not bad to have that type of

638
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:20,799
you know at least we can see that

639
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:23,280
there's a possibility that these things

640
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,880
can be real

641
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,960
i too have talked at length with hal put

642
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:28,240
off and russell targ about remote

643
00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:29,919
viewing i know both of them quite well

644
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,240
and i know inga i knew ingo and i've met

645
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,840
a lot of those other remote viewers

646
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,360
they're amazing people and their stories

647
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,320
were un undeniable it seems to me so we

648
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,000
have capabilities we don't know how it

649
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,679
works we don't know the physics of

650
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:43,440
remote viewing we don't know the physics

651
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,799
of telepathy

652
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,720
but that's the fault of our worldview

653
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:48,320
and our science it doesn't mean it isn't

654
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,520
real

655
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,200
that's it

656
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,799
and then mr blumenthal jumps in and says

657
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,720
my wife and i had dinner with russell

658
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,720
targ a couple of years ago and we were

659
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,640
in his favorite restaurant which has

660
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,880
since closed down in penn station and

661
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,640
we're sitting across the table and just

662
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,799
on a whim i said russell you know remote

663
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,640
viewing tell me what's in my tell me

664
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,640
what's in my wife's bag and ralph laughs

665
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:12,159
and he says just like that i put him on

666
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,279
the spot

667
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,120
and russell targ drew on a napkin a

668
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:16,799
shape of a flip-flop

669
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,360
that was in her bag and it freaked us

670
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,960
both out so

671
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:23,200
i became a believer and richard says it

672
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,480
doesn't normally work like that you

673
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:26,000
realize but

674
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,120
actually

675
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,520
there are people who can do that and

676
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,840
that's not the typical remote viewing

677
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,360
but there are people

678
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:35,440
that are just naturals who can do just

679
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,360
think just like that you know

680
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,720
they don't have to go through the remote

681
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,679
viewing protocol they're just on a whim

682
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,360
tell me what's in my bag and there are

683
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,840
people that would use extended remote

684
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,760
viewing that basically there's no

685
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,440
protocol you would just lay down you did

686
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,520
not know the target beforehand and you

687
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,679
would get into that hypnocod

688
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,480
hypnagogic state of between sleep and

689
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:58,880
being awake and a perfect example of

690
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,919
that is if you go online and type in

691
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,559
joe mcmonicle mars remote viewing i

692
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,080
believe he was at the monroe institute

693
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,679
when he when he did that listen to him

694
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,440
you can tell he's right on that border

695
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,360
of sleep and that's how he did that

696
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,840
session a really cool session about you

697
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,039
know this

698
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,600
supposed structures on mars

699
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:19,520
so danny we get back to danny he says

700
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,039
let me try to draw this back to where we

701
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:22,799
can you know

702
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,520
we can uh help to be practical and he

703
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:27,840
mentions how mark sims has access to a

704
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,799
lot of money because he made a fortune

705
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,880
um a significant amount of money in his

706
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,320
earlier professional life so they have

707
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,000
access to that they have access to other

708
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,559
people who can provide resources and

709
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,039
he's like danny wants to put it together

710
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,200
a jason like group you know they were

711
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,960
the ones that

712
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,640
they were he says they were under the

713
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:49,279
auspices auspices of darpa

714
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,400
darpa

715
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,799
um they were scientists brilliant

716
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:55,120
scientists he says physicist he goes but

717
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,799
i think we need to do that outside of

718
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:58,960
the military-industrial corporate world

719
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,039
and put together a group of people such

720
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,440
as those of us who are gathered here and

721
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,679
others to try to do everything we can to

722
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,120
come up with a better understanding of

723
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,360
not only what this phenomenon is but

724
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,279
also the beings

725
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,679
who are behind this

726
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,440
and taking into account information that

727
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,360
marshall has and other people have to

728
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,760
try to evaluate that with the assistance

729
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,159
of adam and john valentino and other

730
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,760
people like this we've got eric

731
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,000
weinstein who's involved in this now who

732
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,919
knows a lot of people as adam does and

733
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,400
john who are extraordinary scientists

734
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,159
and physicists

735
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:34,480
who do not appear to have been asked

736
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:36,840
with trying to figure out some of this

737
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,799
stuff um and that i will transcribe the

738
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,760
adam

739
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,480
um eric weinstein lecture and the panel

740
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,480
but he talks a lot about how

741
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,720
you know the best theoretical physicists

742
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,120
that he knows have not been asked about

743
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,880
ufos they don't they don't know about

744
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,640
the new york times article and he's he's

745
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,080
baffled by that

746
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,799
so danny continues uh jeff kreipel said

747
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,039
yesterday the major problem is we need

748
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,039
funding we need resources you know

749
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,799
grants

750
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,400
that's what we need to get other people

751
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,480
involved we have the virtual institute

752
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,720
that helps you know we'll have panels

753
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,440
we'll try to figure this stuff out

754
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:15,360
and he goes but in case you hadn't been

755
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,080
one noticing i'd like to recruit all you

756
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,360
guys all the guys on the panel uh

757
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,679
and all of us you know we view the

758
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,679
all of us that we view to be sound and

759
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:27,679
responsible rational people to deal with

760
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:28,559
this

761
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,960
to be one of if not the most important

762
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,919
single event in our entire lives

763
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,360
and they've been telling people and they

764
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,200
he means the others they've been telling

765
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,960
people about global climate change

766
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:42,320
they've been warning people about what

767
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,000
we're doing to our planet the

768
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,080
consistency of these kinds of messages

769
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,039
can't be ignored and i'm not suggesting

770
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,360
and by the way yeah there are messages

771
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,760
telling us about global climate change

772
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,520
and we're just you know we're destroying

773
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,640
our planet

774
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,159
that doesn't mean they care about us

775
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,840
they could just care about the planet

776
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,360
and that's kind of what marshall summers

777
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,520
says that's kind of what got these

778
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,159
intervening forces here because

779
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,559
they were we're destroying the resources

780
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,880
that they rely on what they came here

781
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,080
for so

782
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,840
yeah if you believe that then they

783
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:16,399
really don't care about us

784
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,520
and then we get back to

785
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,520
ralph blumenthal

786
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,840
and he says danny this is one of the

787
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:26,000
best things ralph said in in the entire

788
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,039
panel

789
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,279
and i think it's the the furthest

790
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,760
he's gone as far as this specific

791
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,480
subject he goes danny this evidence

792
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200
exists in the most deeply hidden parts

793
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,840
of not only our government but outside

794
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,120
our government

795
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,200
in the private contractors they have

796
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,520
this information we've heard this we

797
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,600
can't get at it they're not amenable

798
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,679
through foia requests freedom of

799
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,919
information act even the government even

800
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:54,080
lose group as i'm sure he might or might

801
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,000
not even acknowledge

802
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,080
was unable to get their hands on it

803
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,120
there are secret secret super secret

804
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:03,919
corners of our country our establishment

805
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:06,480
particularly the private component

806
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:09,840
private industry lockheed etc where this

807
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,720
stuff is held we're convinced

808
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,640
but we can't get at it and that's the

809
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:15,919
object

810
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:17,440
that's the place to go looking and then

811
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,799
richard goes yes exactly

812
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:22,960
and back to danny sheehan he's like you

813
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,840
know

814
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:25,200
i believe

815
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,520
that we can get it i can tell you i can

816
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:29,440
tell you i believe that we can get it

817
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:30,320
but

818
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,399
we have to make a concentrated effort on

819
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,320
getting it we've tried to do it inside

820
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,080
the rules and regulations that have been

821
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,080
drafted by those who are keeping it but

822
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,159
we need to do everything necessary this

823
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:42,159
is a state of emergency we're in here

824
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,600
not necessarily because of any

825
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,399
particular threat that the others pose

826
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:48,320
but because of our dealing with global

827
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,600
climate change

828
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:51,520
there's technology that may be available

829
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,480
that our human family can get access to

830
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,799
not by compromising ourselves by asking

831
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:59,200
the extraterrestrials to give it to us

832
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,559
but we may have possession of

833
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,840
information

834
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:03,919
we cannot stand around twiddling our

835
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,159
intellectual thumbs saying nothing about

836
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,320
sitting on them while the earth burns

837
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,320
and while our whole nation goes into

838
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,720
chaos with fighting with people fighting

839
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:14,399
with each other we've got to step

840
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,480
forward as men and women who care about

841
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,720
our human family care about our planet

842
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:20,399
and who have strong suspicions that the

843
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,200
information exists and i can tell you if

844
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,080
information exists we can get it

845
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,320
people people were always astonished

846
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,679
that we were able to get to the bottom

847
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,919
of the iran contra stuff and who's

848
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,080
smuggling the cocaine and just because

849
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,679
you couldn't get congress to admit that

850
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,240
they knew what was going on we disabled

851
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:40,960
that whole operation and we exposed it

852
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,120
the same way with the pentagon papers we

853
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:45,440
got at that information as long as they

854
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:47,120
know that there are sound and he's

855
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,559
talking about they the people who have

856
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,799
this information whistleblowers as long

857
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,559
as they know there are sound and

858
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,159
responsible people that are trying

859
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,440
responsibly to get at the information

860
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,519
people will come out of the woodwork

861
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,919
people will come to us as long as there

862
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,679
is a place for them to come

863
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,080
build the field and they will come so

864
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,840
that's what i'm about here i'm trying to

865
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,360
have these type of conversations that

866
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,519
some people find disturbing some people

867
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,279
find upsetting but we're the kind of

868
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,559
people who have been working at this

869
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,880
particular subject and we can do it

870
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,799
i believe that we can so that's what

871
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,320
we're dealing with here that's the

872
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,159
reason for this conversation that's the

873
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,399
reason for putting marshall on the spot

874
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,159
where he feels a little uncomfortable

875
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,080
about having to talk about this thing

876
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:29,840
but it's necessary to get it out in

877
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:30,840
front of us

878
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,760
here and lou said i think marshall had a

879
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,360
question by the way and then marshall

880
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,760
says no you go ahead luis did you have a

881
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,600
question and lou goes no

882
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,240
after you i saw your hand up you go

883
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,840
first my friend

884
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,440
and that's just showing you know lou

885
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,360
being so polite

886
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:49,360
and marshall being treated well which i

887
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:55,430
i just want to say that i really

888
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,919
appreciate your respecting me

889
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:59,760
and i almost thought he was going to cry

890
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,840
here he says i just want to say that

891
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,600
i really appreciate your respecting me

892
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,519
and i've been i've been at a lot of

893
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,919
denial and criticism and called many

894
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,360
different things

895
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,279
somebody i think on your chat actually

896
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:13,440
said i was a stooge of the defense

897
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,840
department a stooge of the pentagon and

898
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,519
was like who said that

899
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,120
marshall's like someone someone said it

900
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,840
on your chat and danny's like wait a

901
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,279
second

902
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:24,960
that's lou's title

903
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:27,519
and lou says yeah i've already got that

904
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,279
one so you're going to have to get

905
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:31,600
another title and they all laugh

906
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,960
and marshall says and by the way yeah

907
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,799
marshall just comes across as a really

908
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:37,519
really nice guy um i don't know if his

909
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:40,000
information is accurate but i think he's

910
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:41,519
he's the fact that he's giving this

911
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,000
information away for free

912
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,399
on his website all four of the first

913
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,760
four books

914
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,919
i don't think he's in this for money or

915
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,840
fame i think he really thinks this is

916
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:53,440
legitimate information and he wants to

917
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,480
share it

918
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,360
um so he goes marshall says i thought to

919
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,840
myself now i've been called everything i

920
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,039
just want to say

921
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,320
i've received 9 000 pages of information

922
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,240
and i'm in the process of publishing it

923
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:07,840
all it's going all over the world and

924
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:09,679
i'm making most of it just available to

925
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:10,399
people

926
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:13,120
all i can say is that i have a serious

927
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:13,919
life

928
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,640
i think that potential is in all of us

929
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:20,640
and i think we can analyze from an

930
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,440
intellectual or a rational viewpoint but

931
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:25,679
we're not looking at a human universe

932
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,559
where human reason is practiced or the

933
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:30,159
limits of technology the limits of

934
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:33,039
rationality are at all observed

935
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,559
or it may have been transcended

936
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,480
transcended long ago basically he's

937
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,399
saying yeah we need to look at us look

938
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,320
at this from a different viewpoint from

939
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:42,799
just our limited human viewpoint

940
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,080
viewpoint

941
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,840
so he says i think we have to think

942
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,240
within the box to communicate to people

943
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,080
but we can begin to think outside the

944
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,320
box and i think you are all part of this

945
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,559
because of extraordinary reasons

946
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,080
i don't think it's just circumstance

947
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:58,000
that you ended up in this very puzzling

948
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,440
and sometimes very uncomfortable

949
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,519
interest or connection

950
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,600
most people would rather not go there so

951
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,120
i just want to say that it's important

952
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,440
that we honor or explore how we really

953
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:09,359
feel about things because the deeper

954
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:10,800
knowledge within us

955
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:12,879
mostly comes through our feelings

956
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:15,599
sometimes as ideas or images and in many

957
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:18,079
different ways for different people

958
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,839
but we can only ascertain so much about

959
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,760
a foreign intelligence what we can

960
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,240
ascertain from evidence is intent and i

961
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,480
think that from my perspective these

962
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:28,399
briefings are like extraterrestrial

963
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:30,320
whistleblowers that have revealed a

964
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:33,760
picture that could not find our own

965
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,430
and i'm gonna i'm gonna go back a little

966
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,200
he goes

967
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:42,960
deep briefings are like extraterrestrial

968
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,320
whistleblowers that have revealed a

969
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,240
picture that we could not find on our

970
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,320
own they're pieces to the puzzle that we

971
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,040
cannot gain here from standing on earth

972
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,520
we cannot be outside our earth watching

973
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,440
what is occurring there

974
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,040
and they're helping us to assemble this

975
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:59,040
puzzle for ourselves

976
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,800
they don't give us all the answers to

977
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,560
everything but we're missing some big

978
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:04,960
things and i'm saying this is for our

979
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,160
own purview for our own entire our own

980
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,160
investigation not what we're going to

981
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,160
publish in the new york times or try to

982
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:14,320
have published in a major newspaper or

983
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,520
magazine

984
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,920
i think we can all feel things are we

985
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:19,920
can all feel things that are honest and

986
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,240
feel things that are dishonest and when

987
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:24,160
i talk about knowledge i'm talking about

988
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,320
core response to things that we can't in

989
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,240
texture intellectualize

990
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,560
we can't explain why we feel why we feel

991
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,720
bad about the situation or good about

992
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,400
the situation

993
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:36,800
we may be able to fill that in if we get

994
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,880
to know it and have the information but

995
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:40,720
we're missing so much information about

996
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:43,599
this that we as individuals citizens of

997
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,680
this world members of the human family

998
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,839
have an opportunity to begin to explore

999
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,960
this on our own to answer some of our

1000
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,880
own questions and try to get connected

1001
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,359
through our own innate experience i

1002
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:57,200
think this is something you can't prove

1003
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,720
you can't quantify

1004
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,480
how we know things

1005
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:02,800
if it's authentic and it can be verified

1006
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,720
of things that actually happened or

1007
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:06,320
proved to be true

1008
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,079
represents just a mysterious part of

1009
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,440
ourselves

1010
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,280
and this is the mind beyond the brain

1011
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,119
that watches the brain and i always

1012
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,200
wonder if you watch your own thoughts

1013
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,200
who is you watching your own thoughts

1014
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,000
and who is you watching you watching

1015
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,240
your own thoughts and he laughs he goes

1016
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,480
it's a buddhist kind of practice

1017
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,119
i'm watching myself watch myself so it's

1018
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,599
not just to provide evidence but to give

1019
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,680
a perspective that i think we have to

1020
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:33,440
explore

1021
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,960
and danny says

1022
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:36,720
i agree

1023
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:39,680
he goes one of the other remarkable

1024
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:41,760
newsworthy events that has taken place

1025
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:43,040
here besides the new york times

1026
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,079
reporting

1027
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:46,079
and the dod you know the director of

1028
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,680
national intelligence putting out the

1029
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,119
report

1030
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:50,960
he says

1031
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,680
on virtually the same day

1032
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,680
that lou and i know lou filed his

1033
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,359
complaint with the department of defense

1034
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,359
inspector general's office in the early

1035
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:02,240
morning of may 3rd of this year and that

1036
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,359
afternoon

1037
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,440
the inspector general issued a public

1038
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,119
memorandum stating that they were going

1039
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,760
to engage in a wide ranging

1040
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,480
not investigation but an evaluation of

1041
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,040
all the actions if any that any element

1042
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,680
of the defense department had undertaken

1043
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:20,480
with respect to the uap phenomenon

1044
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,720
this is an extraordinarily important

1045
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,400
piece of information and i think lou and

1046
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,400
i can honest can be honest and share

1047
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,560
with you that my sense was and i think

1048
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,160
lou shares this

1049
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:31,920
the people that are involved in the in

1050
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,760
this evaluation inside the department of

1051
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,800
defense

1052
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,599
are honest good faith men that we have

1053
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:38,480
met

1054
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,520
and lou says i agree wholeheartedly

1055
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,920
danny says

1056
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,440
they've been kept in the dark about this

1057
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,119
phenomenon but they have a

1058
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:49,119
responsibility even if it's only at the

1059
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,480
evaluation level

1060
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,560
and that it hasn't yet gone to a full

1061
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,920
investigation

1062
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:55,760
they have the authority to call people

1063
00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:58,640
before them and ask the right questions

1064
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,190
and if that happens this is me talking

1065
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,119
and they bring in somebody like susan

1066
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:08,640
goff

1067
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,800
swear to tell the truth the whole truth

1068
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,440
and nothing but the truth about uaps and

1069
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:18,160
luis elizondo and the a-tip program and

1070
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:19,359
awesome

1071
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,800
i would that would be an amazing

1072
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,119
pay-per-view event just to see susan

1073
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,760
goff squirming on the stand and i know

1074
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,839
it's not like a trial but i would love

1075
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,920
to see her have to go before

1076
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,000
the inspector general and ask answer

1077
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:34,160
questions truthfully under oath i'm not

1078
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,839
sure if they do under oath but i would

1079
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,920
love that

1080
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,920
um and if danny continues if the

1081
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,520
inspector general starts to discover

1082
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,200
that they've been stonewalled in the

1083
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,960
same way that you were lou

1084
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,800
then we have an opportunity to be of

1085
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,640
assistance to them in conducting a good

1086
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:50,720
faith evaluation of what the information

1087
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,520
is

1088
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:52,960
it doesn't mean that they're going to

1089
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:55,280
give it all to us they may share with

1090
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,640
you lou because lou has the

1091
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,560
classifications and security clearances

1092
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,800
that i don't have but it seems to me

1093
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:01,760
that

1094
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,720
even if it's only called an evaluation

1095
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,160
and i think that we're in a unique

1096
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,079
position all of us because we have the

1097
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,480
ability to be communicating with you lou

1098
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,000
all of the kinds of information and

1099
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:17,599
different sources of information that we

1100
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,920
have and you have the capacity to sit

1101
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,599
with these other men and share this

1102
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,400
information because i think you agree

1103
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,800
i have the distinct sense that in our

1104
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,040
meetings with these guys you know the

1105
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,599
inspector general that they are inviting

1106
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,520
the information they're open to trying

1107
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:35,839
to get lou to share with them what lou

1108
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:38,000
was able to determine in his atip

1109
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:39,839
investigations because they have been

1110
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,240
left in the dark

1111
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:43,839
and i'm going to take a

1112
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:51,829
and

1113
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,920
i think that's correct danny

1114
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,520
i think there's an honest attempt to

1115
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,000
reconcile what they have been told

1116
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,240
the inspector general previously about

1117
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,400
this topic

1118
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,560
versus what they're learning now

1119
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,960
my impression was the same mr stone and

1120
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,240
his cadre

1121
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,160
are extremely professional extremely

1122
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,000
competent and adept and they seem like

1123
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,839
very patriotic people that want to do

1124
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:21,359
the right thing for the american people

1125
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,640
and their boss

1126
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,720
i applaud that

1127
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,560
i also agree with adam that

1128
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,800
consciousness is not just the result of

1129
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,800
electrical symmet synapses in the human

1130
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,760
brain

1131
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,440
i think it's safe to presume at this

1132
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:35,920
point there's something more to it you

1133
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:39,280
know philosophically philosophically

1134
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:41,839
you know philosophically there's always

1135
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:44,319
been some sort of division between quote

1136
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,599
the mind the body and the spirit unquote

1137
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,520
as being distinctly three different

1138
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,760
things and of course it's easy to look

1139
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:53,760
at a human body and understand the

1140
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,240
physiology physiology

1141
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:59,119
physiology to look at a mind and be able

1142
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,839
to understand neural pathways

1143
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,680
but the third component is far more

1144
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,800
difficult

1145
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,000
but i don't think it's any less

1146
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,599
important and again this goes to my

1147
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,160
belief that all data must remain on the

1148
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,040
table until it's no longer on the table

1149
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,359
i know from my own perspective

1150
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,599
and this may surprise some people may be

1151
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,599
a surprise to some people i don't ever

1152
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,960
talk about it

1153
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:22,880
but i happen to know a thing or two

1154
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,040
about the remote viewing program and i'm

1155
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,760
not going to go into much detail than

1156
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,920
that

1157
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,079
john um

1158
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:34,800
from i want to know uk

1159
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,640
he said that hal put off told him that

1160
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,550
was trained by hal in remote viewing so

1161
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,040
and also lou has spoken about how he was

1162
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,040
he was actually in the remote viewing

1163
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:50,880
program for a few days

1164
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:53,119
um he said and he kind of blew it off

1165
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,480
back then when he said that he goes it

1166
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,800
was like an accident well not so sure it

1167
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,800
was an accident maybe it was

1168
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,720
maybe that's how he met hal

1169
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,400
but hal trained him in remote viewing

1170
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,720
according to john

1171
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,000
i want to know

1172
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,359
uk that's his twitter handle

1173
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,040
so

1174
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,230
but when we're having a conversation

1175
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,480
with the public we must understand

1176
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,119
that your take you're talking to people

1177
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,400
who have not been indoctrinated

1178
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,280
into this topic at all

1179
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,960
the most they've seen is maybe a couple

1180
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,040
of sci-fi movies on tv

1181
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:33,119
and they've been told to be dismissive

1182
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,800
that this is something you know a topic

1183
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,079
of fringe

1184
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,599
so when you're asking them to do a

1185
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:40,240
complete 180 degree turn or so

1186
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:42,800
there's that all adage

1187
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,640
of crawl walk run right so you've got to

1188
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,000
crawl before you walk you've got to

1189
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,480
learn how to walk before you run well

1190
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,920
i think we're still in the stage of

1191
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,000
slithering and writhing on the floor we

1192
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,079
haven't even begun to crawl yet so it's

1193
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,560
going to take time for us to get there

1194
00:43:01,589 --> 00:43:00,079
this goes into the question of remote

1195
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,599
viewing and even things such as

1196
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:03,680
channeling i'm not sure there's much of

1197
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,079
a difference between a prophet a

1198
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:08,480
channeler a remote viewer or anything

1199
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,520
else

1200
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,440
it seems to me that the skill sets seem

1201
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,560
to be the same

1202
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,480
but perhaps one of the greatest

1203
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:16,240
challenges we have that

1204
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,400
with understanding consciousness may be

1205
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,119
because consciousness isn't inherently

1206
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,119
only a human thing

1207
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,280
where the body is

1208
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,440
and the human mind is perhaps

1209
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,280
consciousness is something a little bit

1210
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,119
more indelible or something a little bit

1211
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,640
more universal beyond just our species

1212
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,440
potentially and as a result of that it

1213
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,960
tends to be a little bit harder to

1214
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,040
define or a little bit harder to

1215
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,960
understand because it's not it's not a

1216
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,440
completely human thing to begin with

1217
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,760
and that's kind of one of the things

1218
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,000
i've said that if

1219
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:52,160
we ever can prove to enough people that

1220
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,680
ufos are real

1221
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,040
then they can say you know they're going

1222
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:56,800
to say what else have we been lied to we

1223
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:59,040
will lie to for 70 years about ufos and

1224
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,760
then

1225
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,000
i want to immediately transition into

1226
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,800
something like remote viewing because

1227
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:07,440
you may not have been lied to about that

1228
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,480
although

1229
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,040
back in 1995 when the when the remote

1230
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:12,560
viewing program

1231
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:15,440
supposedly ended

1232
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,160
and they went live on ted koppel's

1233
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,280
nightline

1234
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,200
they had some somebody from the cia was

1235
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,119
on that panel i think joe mcmonald

1236
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,880
mcmonicle one of the best remote viewers

1237
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,960
remote viewer zero zero one i think he

1238
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,079
was there too

1239
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:30,079
um there were pros you know opponents

1240
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,440
and proponents for the remote viewing

1241
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,599
program but the guy from the cia was

1242
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,520
basically like yeah you know there was

1243
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,599
really nothing to see here so yeah they

1244
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,119
did lie to us about that because there

1245
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,200
was something to see there and remote

1246
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,960
viewing is far from perfect but there

1247
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:45,440
are times when they have results that

1248
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,079
they called an eight martini result so

1249
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,720
basically the result was that good that

1250
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,400
accurate that it blew them away and they

1251
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,359
had to recover their you know their

1252
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,960
their minds

1253
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,680
their what's the word

1254
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,960
can't think of the word but basically

1255
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,800
the result was so good that they had to

1256
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,800
go out to a bar and have eight martinis

1257
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:06,880
just to recover you know it was just

1258
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,280
amazing it just changed their world view

1259
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,160
of what is possible with human beings

1260
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,119
so

1261
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,119
lou jumps in and says

1262
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,119
and that just basically one more time

1263
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,960
yeah so

1264
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,560
people will say what else have they lied

1265
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:21,520
to

1266
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,520
and then we'll say yeah remote viewing

1267
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,839
and humans have amazing capabilities and

1268
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:29,200
i also think

1269
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,480
the occupants of these craft either one

1270
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:33,680
have

1271
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,240
abilities that far surpass human beings

1272
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:37,760
as far as telepathy and that kind of

1273
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,839
thing or

1274
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:41,599
they have similar abilities and they use

1275
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,800
technology you know to boost it

1276
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,880
you know

1277
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,800
psychotronic weapons i'm not sure which

1278
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,960
one is the case um

1279
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,800
are they are they naturally more gifted

1280
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,839
than humans or are they using technology

1281
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,599
to make it appear that they're more

1282
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,960
gifted

1283
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,359
and then lou goes back to saying

1284
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:03,920
what i wanted to say marshall is please

1285
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:07,119
understand when i'm quote unquote sharp

1286
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,480
shooting you

1287
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,119
i'm not really and i'm not disintegrated

1288
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,359
i'm not disagreeing with you

1289
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,119
what i'm simply doing

1290
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,599
is posing to you the questions of an

1291
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,359
investigator

1292
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,200
the reason why i don't superimpose my

1293
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,520
own thoughts into things and my own

1294
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,359
beliefs is because i'm not sure it's

1295
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,359
fair nor relevant

1296
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,599
it's just like when ralph is writing an

1297
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,280
article for the new york times his

1298
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,520
opinion doesn't matter what matters are

1299
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,040
the facts and you have to really

1300
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,280
separate yourself so when i'm asking you

1301
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,960
these questions marshall it's not

1302
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,800
because i believe or don't believe you

1303
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,720
it has nothing to do with belief at all

1304
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:44,240
i'm just trying to look at this from an

1305
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,400
outside perspective and ask questions so

1306
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,319
i can try to evaluate the authenticity

1307
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,400
of the information it really is nothing

1308
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,400
to do about you

1309
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:54,240
so basically he's saying marshall it's

1310
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,760
not you it's me a seinfeld reference uh

1311
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,920
lou says it's you know it's really it's

1312
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,520
nothing to do about you i'm trying to

1313
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:02,880
understand where the information is

1314
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:04,960
coming from right that's what i try to

1315
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:07,280
do but please don't look at this and

1316
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,000
feel that i think it's hogwash because i

1317
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,079
actually have maybe

1318
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,400
a surprising perspective that you're not

1319
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:16,640
aware of and then loose smiles that's

1320
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,000
the smile on that picture he goes

1321
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:22,079
but i keep those very private and it's

1322
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,760
important as an investigator that i

1323
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:25,839
remain as objective and as fair as

1324
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:28,160
possible and so that's why i ask you the

1325
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,680
questions that i do

1326
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:32,160
it's not personal

1327
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,200
and then

1328
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:35,040
talking about the remote viewing program

1329
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,880
and how it shut down and blumenthal says

1330
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,240
the government you know the government

1331
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,559
should the cia shut down or stop

1332
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:42,240
supporting the remote viewing program

1333
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,119
saying

1334
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,440
it proved a complete dud right

1335
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,079
and danny says total [\h__\h] total more

1336
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,960
lying [\h__\h] and ralph says

1337
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,040
interesting that they said that number

1338
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:55,119
one after all those years of supporting

1339
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,079
it and putting all that money towards it

1340
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,119
and then lou jumps in and says

1341
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:03,359
well ralph are you sure that it's

1342
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,839
actually

1343
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,440
gone and ralph laughs

1344
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,760
and then she and says

1345
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,680
i don't believe it's gone

1346
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,440
and lou says

1347
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,839
i'm not gonna answer that question

1348
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:17,920
but are you sure

1349
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,400
it's not being used anymore

1350
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,720
in the united states government and he's

1351
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,359
talking about the remote viewing program

1352
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,680
and danny says

1353
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,680
nobody puts aside that capacity that has

1354
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:31,520
been established and i think ralph said

1355
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:32,400
right

1356
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,990
and i just want to say that yeah for

1357
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,520
if you talked to any of the remote

1358
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,280
viewers over the past few decades they

1359
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:45,040
all suspected that the program was still

1360
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:46,480
going on they never said they had

1361
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,760
information that it was going on but

1362
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,680
to back that up james ian doley said

1363
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,280
that he had confirmation that the

1364
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,440
program was still going on engaging the

1365
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,510
so

1366
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,599
there's that

1367
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,440
so ralph says i just want to say one

1368
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:04,960
other thing

1369
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,800
the ufo debate has been around for

1370
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:08,880
decades as we know since the war the

1371
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,680
post-war period and back and forth all

1372
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,520
these reports that richard is citing

1373
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,920
properly so that would be great to see

1374
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,839
the light of day but what changed

1375
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,520
everything in my view

1376
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:22,079
is the navy videos that gave us a

1377
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:23,280
physical

1378
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,559
imprimatur

1379
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:27,440
a positive proof that these things exist

1380
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,119
so what we're looking at now we me the

1381
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,119
times the media is something that will

1382
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,440
move the story forward that will add to

1383
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,119
the information we already have that

1384
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,119
will take it catapult it to a new

1385
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,760
dimension or a new level that will tell

1386
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,920
us something that we don't already know

1387
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,839
that will prove something that we long

1388
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:48,480
doubted so that i think is the challenge

1389
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,599
for lou

1390
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:52,160
and for everybody who is who is in

1391
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,000
possession of this information

1392
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,640
and dolan says how about an analysis of

1393
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:01,680
the davis wilson notes i'm just saying

1394
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,440
exactly and we do know that they were

1395
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,920
working on the davis wilson davis notes

1396
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:07,920
or davis wilson notes

1397
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,589
i don't know if they were not able to

1398
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:13,599
get enough information

1399
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:14,480
to

1400
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,800
assume that's what happened

1401
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:19,920
um

1402
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,280
but yeah ralph was live on facebook

1403
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,800
where he didn't realize he was live and

1404
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,480
he was talking to michael hall about

1405
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,160
collecting information about the wilson

1406
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,400
davis notes so that's how we found out

1407
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:31,920
the new york times was at least

1408
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,800
investigating that

1409
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,520
and danny says

1410
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,440
we have the advantage of having lou

1411
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:41,200
working at the kind of the tip of the

1412
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,240
spear

1413
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:44,079
of this continuing investigation i mean

1414
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,520
there's no doubt at all about the

1415
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,280
interaction that we've we're having with

1416
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:49,119
the inspector general's office we're

1417
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,480
engaged in an

1418
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,960
active still active investigation they

1419
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,559
can't get rid of louis elizondo that

1420
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,079
easily okay

1421
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,599
and lou is the kind of guy that once he

1422
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:58,880
starts going after a piece of

1423
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,680
information you can't just say forget it

1424
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:03,520
go away we're not going to hand it to

1425
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,480
you

1426
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:06,319
he's not going to go away he's going to

1427
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,760
continue this investigation and we're

1428
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,359
going to be working in coordination with

1429
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,119
him in the same way ralph a great

1430
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,960
reporter doesn't drop a great story and

1431
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,319
we know that ralph is going to keep

1432
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,839
going after this richard you've been

1433
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,680
going at this for decades we know

1434
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,119
perfectly well you're not going to go

1435
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,119
away no matter what they might try to do

1436
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,960
to you no matter what they might try to

1437
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,559
do to you or how they might try to

1438
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,400
discredit you whatever it is that's

1439
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,839
going to happen your friends are all

1440
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,680
around you okay

1441
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,720
you know it's like what the hell does

1442
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:32,319
ralph know that we don't know

1443
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,440
whatever they're gonna go to do the

1444
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,800
dolan or whatever they're gonna do to

1445
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:37,280
discredit him it's really

1446
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,720
kind of weird but i know he didn't mean

1447
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,319
anything by that but

1448
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:42,480
danny says you know

1449
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,680
and we know that

1450
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,280
richard you're going to continue pushing

1451
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,359
on this information adam you have access

1452
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,960
to some really really important

1453
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:50,960
information about the kind of objective

1454
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,119
work that you've done there at princeton

1455
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:55,359
and your other friends and colleagues

1456
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:57,280
marshall you have access to a unique

1457
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,599
completely sincerely believed in

1458
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,440
source of information and we know that

1459
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:03,760
these things happen police departments

1460
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,079
use psychics people to go and find

1461
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,160
criminals we know this goes on all the

1462
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,440
time and they don't like to talk about

1463
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,440
it but if we can maintain continued

1464
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:13,680
communication among ourselves

1465
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,240
taking leadership from people like lou

1466
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,000
and taking leadership from people like

1467
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:20,800
ralph and richard and even marshall with

1468
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:23,599
leadership from people like you adam

1469
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:24,480
that

1470
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:28,000
we can find this information out

1471
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,599
even if we have to use remote viewers to

1472
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,680
find it he goes because the fact is i

1473
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,359
know and you guys all know why pat price

1474
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,960
got into trump got into trouble with the

1475
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,720
fbi for going into that building and

1476
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,480
what he was capable of doing

1477
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,720
we can get this information they cannot

1478
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:42,640
hide this information information from

1479
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,480
us okay so all we have to do is be

1480
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,720
willing to participate in all this

1481
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,119
all together and i believe that we are

1482
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,400
we have other allies around what you see

1483
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,040
here marshall is

1484
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,079
allies of humanity

1485
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:00,880
and ralph says human allies

1486
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,520
human allies and danny's like yes human

1487
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,079
allies of humanity and marshall says

1488
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:07,920
yeah this this team needs some good

1489
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,400
allies right now

1490
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:12,000
danny says that's right we need all the

1491
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,760
allies we can get and we will take them

1492
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,599
from extraterrestrial sources we'll take

1493
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:17,119
them from remote viewing sources we'll

1494
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,040
take them from investigative sources and

1495
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:21,119
reported sources and we will get this

1496
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,240
information

1497
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,160
and we will handle it responsibly and

1498
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,920
we'll share it with our people and we

1499
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,680
will exercise our constitutional

1500
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,000
fundamental rights to get access to this

1501
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,480
information and use it responsibly to

1502
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,480
not only solve the problems of the ufo

1503
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,800
but our global climate change and our

1504
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,359
other major problems and we need to earn

1505
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,000
the trust of all our people engaged in

1506
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:44,240
this process okay

1507
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,480
and marshall closes it by saying

1508
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,000
gentlemen

1509
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,160
it was great to meet you all i would

1510
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,079
love to be in contact with any of you

1511
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,400
who would like to be in contact with me

1512
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,800
danny says absolutely

1513
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:59,119
dolan thank you marshall

1514
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,839
marshall says i'm very respectable i'm

1515
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,920
very respectful

1516
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,240
of everybody's experience here

1517
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,240
and you know we all bring pieces to this

1518
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,160
puzzle and we're all in this situation

1519
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,240
out of destiny or choice

1520
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,559
however you might want to interpret that

1521
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:16,800
richard says absolutely

1522
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,710
he says

1523
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,640
an important place

1524
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,960
in our human history

1525
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,800
great thank you very much guys i

1526
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:30,880
appreciate it i will see you all in the

1527
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,280
virtual world

1528
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:35,599
so that is

1529
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:38,960
the panel which i really enjoyed

1530
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,549
we need more of this kind of thing we

1531
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:46,079
need more pushing you know if there are

1532
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,440
more people with information like

1533
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:49,920
marshall it's good to push to ask

1534
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:52,799
questions um i think they did it

1535
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,400
respectfully i don't think marshall took

1536
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:56,400
offense to it and i think we need to do

1537
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,119
it again hopefully this happens again uh

1538
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,960
this was i think it was fantastic and

1539
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:02,559
hopefully you guys will get to see

1540
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,760
you'll you'll get to see a little

1541
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:05,520
20-minute segment that somebody posted

1542
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,559
on vimeo i put that in the blog

1543
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,920
and

1544
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,359
also

1545
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,280
hopefully maybe one day

1546
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,200
the conference folks they release that

1547
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,520
video because i think it's worth seeing

1548
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,440
there's only so much i can do as far as

1549
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,200
you know trying to recreate it

1550
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,359
um hopefully you enjoyed this and any

1551
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,839
feedback is is appreciated even critical

1552
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,040
feedback

1553
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:31,349
constructive criticism is always

1554
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,160
appreciated and once again closing it's

1555
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:37,119
my blog i'm mostly on twitter but i'm

1556
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,480
trying to focus more on the blog and

1557
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,319
doing these type of videos which take a

1558
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:42,640
while uh this one was like three hours

1559
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,559
and i i did a couple of versions because

1560
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,480
i wasn't happy with the other ones

1561
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:49,040
uh that's patreon

1562
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:53,829
paypal

1563
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,670
venmo hopefully you guys don't mind me

1564
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,040
doing that i just do it at the beginning

1565
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:03,119
and at the end and so yeah thanks for

1566
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,480
watching thanks for listening check out